The Norwegian-Pakistani imam Fayed Sarased Ali Bukhari from Ammerud in Olso, wants to establish a school for 200 children. He also thinks that those who don’t pray five times a day should go to jail.
Bukhari has applied to the government to be allowed to start a primary school for 200 children.
“If a person doesn’t fast during Ramadan, he is mocking Islam. And if the person is in a muslim state, the authorities must behead him.”
The application to the department for education doesn’t say anything about beheading. On the other hand, Bukhari is oblgated to adhere to the laws of education, the curriculum and the laws concerning private schools.
And he is a qualified applicant whose economic status is without fault.
This sermon is conducted in Urdu, but we know what he says.
Q: What is your reaction?
Hege Storhaug (co-founder and information director of Human Rights Service): This is not shocking. It is mainstream Islam in the way it’s organized in mosques and so on in their communities. This is often the result
Q: Why do you think this man wants to establish a school?
HS: I suppose he wants to spread his ideology. That is quite simple and obvious. For a person who doesn’t perform his daily prayers, and is of age and sound mind, the most lenient punishment in an islamic state is incarceration. In certain schools of law there would be grounds to kill them.
Q: Siv Kensen, what do you think would have happened to this application?
SK: With the naive political majority we have in Norway, this application would have been approved if this hadn’t been revealed. But this is of course the best proof why we mustn’t approve muslim schools. The Progress Party has always been crystal clear about that, precisely because of integration.
The department of education is now considering the application, it was not aware of the imam’s interpretation of Islam.
Q: What kind of Koran-related competense does the department of education have to enable it to reject people like this?
Kristin Halversen (Educational Minister): They have competence and the abillity to supervise. They can turn up at the school and check what kind of education is going on, and schools that threaten with death penalty or try to indoctriniate children in a way that’s not compatible with the curriculum of tolerance and human rights can not be allowed to exist in Norway. I doubt that very much.
(narrator) NRK has been in contact with Bukhari, who refuses to be interviewd.
Q: Knut Arild Hareide, you are a champion for private schools. Should this imam be allowed to run a school?
KAH: No, absolutely not.
I think this report reveals clearly that this is not a serious player, and those who wish to set up schools in Norway should be serious and follow Norwegian laws, and this person isn’t.
Q: What demands are not met?
KAH: There is no doubt: Death penalty is suggested and Norwegian law doesn’t allow that. We are in favor of private schools and that is good, but there are rules and regulations that must be followed. And there is no doubt this school would not be in accordance with the rules. There are almost 100 Christian private schools in this country.
Q: Shouldn’t the muslims be allowed to have one single school?
KAH: Yes, I took part in allowing one such school in 1999. That was a serious school which later closed for economic reasons. As a matter of principle we can’t just say yes to Christian schools and turn down muslim ones, we must stand by our principles.
Both Christians and muslims must act according to the rules. They must be serious and act in students’ best interest.
Q: So you would defend establishing a muslim school if it obeyed the law?
KAH: Yes, but it must be a serious player. It can’t be the fundamental extremist we’ve seen in this example. But as champion for private schools I think it is important to allow both Christian and muslim schools to exist. If they obey the law.
Thank you for coming.